NATO Not Confirming That U.S. Helicopter in Afghanistan Flew Into Taliban Trap

NATO Not Confirming That U.S. Helicopter in Afghanistan Flew Into Taliban Trap

(CNSNews.com) — The NATO-led International Security Assistance Force-Afghanistan (ISAF) says it has no information yet to validate whether the U.S. Chinook helicopter that crashed in eastern Afghanistan, killing 30 U.S. troops, flew into a Taliban ambush.

It was reported by AFP news agency that an unnamed Afghan official had said the Taliban, working with some Pakistanis, lured the U.S. forces into a trap to shoot down the helicopter. CNSNews.com asked the ISAF if that report was accurate.

U.S. Army Lt. Col. Jimmie Cummings Jr., a spokesman for ISAF, responded by e-mail, saying, “I have seen a number of media stories stating this allegation. We have no initial information as of yet to validate that this was some kind of ambush or trap, but with that said, the helicopter incident is still under investigation for the cause of the crash.”

Lt. Col. Cummings Jr. also did not confirm definitively whether the helicopter was brought down by “hostile fire,” although ISAF Joint Command reported on Aug. 8 that “the helicopter was reportedly fired on by an insurgent rocket-propelled grenade.”

The Taliban, which often exaggerates its effectiveness, has claimed responsibility for shooting down the helicopter. However, Lt. Col. Cummings Jr. suggested that it is still unclear whether the helicopter crashed as a result of “hostile fire.”

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NATO Not Confirming That U.S. Helicopter in Afghanistan Flew Into Taliban Trap

OK, read that last line again and let it sink in a bit; However, Lt. Col. Cummings Jr. suggested that it is still unclear whether the helicopter crashed as a result of “hostile fire.” because it is a very important part of this whole piece.

Watch the video and then read the rest of the story.


Military killed Taliban who downed US helicopter

WASHINGTON (AP) – International forces killed the Taliban insurgents responsible for shooting down a U.S. helicopter and killing 38 U.S. and Afghan forces over the weekend, but they are still seeking the top insurgent leader they were going after in Saturday’s mission, the top American commander in Afghanistan said Wednesday.

Marine Corps Gen. John Allen told a Pentagon news conference that an F-16 airstrike Monday took out fewer than 10 insurgents involved in the attack on the Chinook helicopter.

In a separate statement Wednesday, the military said the Monday strike killed Taliban leader Mullah Mohibullah and the insurgent who fired the rocket-propelled grenade at the helicopter. The military said intelligence gained on the ground provided a high degree of confidence that the insurgent who fired the grenade was the person killed. It did not provide further details.

Allen defended the decision to send in the Chinook loaded with special operations forces to pursue insurgents escaping from the weekend firefight with Army Rangers in a dangerous region of Wardak province of eastern Afghanistan.

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Military killed Taliban who downed US helicopter

OK, anyone that has ever been engaged in military operations, in ANY capacity knows; the mass confusion is beyond anything the public, ie: civilians can comprehend. 

Combat operations take confusion to a whole new level. Now the media, the MSM, Mainstream Media is exacerbating the confusion with conflicting stories.

“It is still unclear whether the helicopter crashed as a result of “hostile fire.”” and then “Military killed Taliban who downed US helicopter” and all they are doing is making matters worse.

In this post, THE EXECUTION OF SEAL TEAM SIX (PART 1), Ann Barnhardt points out that the *body* of Osama bin Laden “was declared “positively identified” faster than any known DNA testing process in existence – and this DNA testing was carried out not in a lab mind you, but inside Chinook and/or V-22 Osprey helos en route to the USS Carl Vinson.”

The troops killed in this crash, shoot down, whatever the case may be, are rumored to be visually unidentifiable and will likely have to be identified through DNA testing.

The Pentagon decided that press would not be allowed to see the remains being carried off the plane. Back in October of 2009, Obama made his first trip to Dover to watch 18 Americans killed in Afghanistan come home.

The images of a president saluting while a team carried each of the remains off the plane in flag-draped cases were sobering. Obama, reports the AP, would later say it was the most powerful moment of his presidency. SOURCE

If memory serves me, I have never used NPR as a source before, but I had to use them this time. It seems that to NPR it’s a big deal that Obama saluted the flag-draped cases as they were unloaded. It’s NOT a big deal, if anything it’s a hollow gesture at best, a total insult at worst, one made by a President that has NO respect for the military, has never served under arms and has NO idea what military customs and traditions are.

The one thing that seriously bothers me is the way in which the actions of a U.S. Navy SEAL Team and a joint task force of Special Operations troops was broadcast to the world, almost in real time if these reports are anywhere close to being the truth. Someone in the Obama administration has gone against all defined protocol and has endangered all operators in Spec/Ops, the security of this nation and the families of Spec/Ops personnel the world over.

The YouTube video calls for a full investigation of the Obama White House in this matter, and that is, at the current time, the only part of this debacle I am confident in endorsing.

Suspicions are running high that this shoot down may have been a setup, there is NO DOUBT that *some* in the Obama administration are complicit in Operation Fast and Furious.

With the Obama regime, anything is possible and nothing is out of the realm of believability, and if recent actions BY the Obama regime are any indication, well, you do the math.

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9 Responses to NATO Not Confirming That U.S. Helicopter in Afghanistan Flew Into Taliban Trap

  1. You are damn right there should be a Congressional investigation. Obama’s thirst for good PR or photo ops at the the cost of putting our special forces at risk has got to stop and stop now!

  2. Let’s say you never even read the Barnhardt piece; every other point of this story stinks to high heaven. There are many, many inconsistencies. Type of aircraft, number on board, percentile of SpecOps operators, even the “mission” itself. It stinks and demands an investigation — YES.

    BZ

  3. Capt Ron says:

    Fred, I agree with you and BZ. This whole thing is a great container of excrement, the stench thereof we cannot abide.

    Nice to meet you, by the way, Bloviating. I like your work.

  4. Katie says:

    Something stinks to Heaven and it isn’t the fish I’m cooking. It is out of place to name the members of a SEAL team and give out their addresses. In fact it is against the regs. And how do we know that they got the one who killed our men? Al Qadia doesn’t issue press releases and intel doesn’t travel that fast.

    This smells like a fraud. Except the SEALs were killed, but perhaps by an accident instead of an attack? I feel as if Obama is trying to use the military to boost his ratings and detract from the economy. Only instead of detracting from the economy, those of us with military training are questioning every aspect of this debacle.

  5. TexasFred says:

    I feel as if Obama is trying to use the military to boost his ratings and detract from the economy.

    DING DING DING DING DING!!! Winner winner, chicken dinner! :P

    Katie, you just summed it up in one easy to read sentence!

  6. Katie says:

    I do try Fred. And I’m scared. If Sheik Obama is using the military this way in Afghanistan, what or who is to stop him from using the military against his opponents here at home?

  7. BobF says:

    How do they know these 10 insurgents were the ones who took out the helicopter? Do they wear signs on their backs stating so?

    The names and bios of these SEAL’s killed are being broadcaster all over the news. What the hell is wrong with these people? Don’t they realize they’re putting their families at risk? Do these clowns even know the meaning of terrorism? This compromise of these people is nuts.

    I contacted a friend of mine; retired Naval Officer who trained with SEAL’s. He’s going nuts over this release of information on the deceased SEAL’s and family information.

  8. Cary says:

    Stinks. Stinks. Stinks. Stinks. Stinks. Stinks. Stinks. Stinks. Stinks. Stinks. Stinks. Stinks. Stinks. Stinks. Stinks. Stinks. Stinks. Stinks. Stinks. Stinks. Stinks. Stinks. Stinks. Stinks. Stinks. Stinks. Stinks. Stinks. Stinks. Stinks. Stinks. Stinks. Stinks. Stinks. Stinks. Stinks. Stinks. Stinks. Stinks. Stinks. Stinks. Stinks. Stinks. Stinks. Stinks. Stinks. Stinks. Stinks. Stinks. Stinks. Sti … oh, sorry, after I read this I went over a mental list of the pResident’s administration so far.

    All of us with military background, and those without who have a partial clue as to the nature of what a SEAL is and does, is squirming with anger and bile and frustration because there is nothing we, as individuals, can do. Those of you currently serving under this pResident should be raising hell all the way up your Chain as to the breaking of OpSec. That is your duty. We out here are trying to do the same thing, but I’m sure you are all aware of just how effective it is to tell a representative something ain’t right. That’s along the same lines as telling a skunk he don’t smell to pretty. He’s aware, but has accepted it as part of life and won’t do anything to change it.

    Yes, I just called our representatives a bunch of skunks. Prove me wrong. The majority of them are complicit in this action, and should be held accountable with the pResident.

  9. Thank you, Capt Ron.

    BZ

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