Analyst: U.S. Pulling out of Afghanistan at Worst Time

Analyst: U.S. Pulling out of Afghanistan at Worst Time

A leading foreign policy analyst has written that “post-American Afghanistan” is becoming a “flashpoint”–not just in the region, but in the world, as emerging powers jockey for position amidst declining U.S. influence. SOURCE

Big Eagle 1I seem to remember these same words being spoken in the early 1970’s when the USA was trying to find a way to get out of Vietnam without looking like they had been defeated. The entire world was going to turn Communist if Vietnam fell, Vietnam was the gateway to S.E. Asia and their fall would be catastrophic.

The USA left Vietnam after suffering 58,286 KIA or non-combat deaths (including the missing & deaths in captivity). The war in Vietnam cost the American taxpayer untold billions of dollars and the psychological damage done to so many minds has never been calculated.

The French military was involved in Vietnam before we were and they were soundly defeated in 1954 and the French left Vietnam behind.

The United States sent troops to Vietnam as early as 1950, in an attempt to assist the French in training the South Vietnamese.

In the early 1960s, elements of the U.S. Army Special Forces and Echo 31 were sent to South Vietnam as military advisors to train and assist the South Vietnamese Army (ARVN) for impending actions against the North Vietnamese People’s Army of Vietnam (PAVN). SOURCE

In 1975 we tucked our tails and left Vietnam.

The world didn’t collapse, S.E. Asia isn’t a Communist bloc and today Vietnam is a huge trading partner of the United States and other nations.

Now with all that in mind, fathom this; the war in Afghanistan brought about the fall of the Soviet Union and nearly broke the back of Russia, yes, their war in Afghanistan.

Sure, the United States had a hand in that defeat, through the actions of the CIA and what has often been referred to as “Charlie Wilson’s War”, we supplied the Mujahideen with modern weapons, lots of modern weapons, we taught them how to use them and they in turn were able to inflict so many casualties on the Russian army and bleed the Soviet economy so badly that the Soviets packed up and left. Today our troops are facing those same weapons.

In other words, they got their asses kicked, Afghanistan was their Vietnam and the world had a new plan on how to take down *the BIG guys* with long, drawn out wars that inflicted great numbers of dead and wounded as well as costing *the BIG guys* the fortunes of their nations.

Fast forward to 2002 and the American incursion into Afghanistan and notice the similarities of previous engagements with current engagements.

I was not at all opposed to our going into Afghanistan when it was done; we were hurt, we were looking for revenge against those that had attacked us and by God we were going to have it.

It has often been said that those who don’t learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

We didn’t go into Afghanistan and exercise the full might of the American military, we went in with a half-assed plan, a ridiculous set of *Rules of Engagement* that got OUR troops killed and for good measure, we didn’t complete the job before we traipsed off to Iraq to do another half-assed job, lose many American lives and expend even more untold billions of taxpayer dollars, and even though we are now OUT of Iraq, we’re STILL in Afghanistan, losing lives, spending money we don’t have and making the United States look very bad to the entire world.

I am guessing that George W. Bush and Barack Hussein Obama were NEVER serious students of history.

Personally, I don’t give a damn what happens to Afghanistan, Iraq or any other Arab/Muslim nation. Let them implode; let them kill each other in great numbers, and even then they won’t all be killed.

These Muslims breed like animals and they’re not going to run out of willing participants in their quest to control the world and force every living soul to accept Sharia Law and Islam.

We, on the other hand, embrace political correctness and allow these cretins to force themselves on us and our culture.

We are bowing, as a nation, to the will of a Communist President that has serious sympathies for those that practice Islam. We don’t wage WAR on our enemies, we hit them with *surgical strikes*, if we hit them at all, in an effort to not inflame the passions of Muslims. We engage in long, drawn out and expensive actions that are only going to hurt America even more.

If we’re not going to fight and fight to win, and I mean WIN with a massive strike that instills the fear of God into our enemies, get the hell out and let them kill each other. The world will be no worse off with MILLIONS of dead Muslims littering Muslim nations, and hopefully, come 2016, we’ll have a POTUS that’s not a total moron or one that’s a Muslim sympathizer.

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26 Responses to Analyst: U.S. Pulling out of Afghanistan at Worst Time

  1. Alan Caruba says:

    This one needs to be framed and put on the wall, it’s that good. You have said everything I would have. There is nothing to be gained putting our troops in these Middle Eastern nations and history is the proof of that.

  2. Gary says:

    For Afghanistan, The original mission was to secure or eliminate Bin Laden and al-Qaeda.

    Making a backward ass theologically based political system democratic was foolhardy at best.

    Most of us here would have preferred to see the ‘Stan’ turned into a sea of glass instead of red.

    We shouldn’t have started to begin with, but once a task begins, it ought to be finished.

    • TexasFred says:

      Fully agreed Gary, but regarding the *glass* thing; no one in the last 50 years has had the balls to pull the trigger, not since JFK, and I’m not so sure about him to be honest about it!

  3. Wayne says:

    Back when Clinton went in to help the muzzies in the Serb/Croat war, I knew people from that part of Europe who migrated here legally to escape all that crap. Uninformed at the time, I made a remark in to a friend from Romania about the plight of the poor muslims that were being persecuted for thier beliefs. Holy shit did I get an earful about the way muslims treated non-believers. That started my personal investigation into Islam. I read all I could on the subject as the internet wasn’t what it is today. In my opinion, it’s not a religion at all but a political ideology that hides behind a belief system modeled on the rise of Christianity, only they kill you for not seeing things their way.

    • BobF says:

      During WWII, the Serbs in Yugoslavia risked their lives to save downed American Pilots and return them to Allied lines. The Muslims in that area would turn our pilots over to the Nazi’s. When we bombed the Serbs in 1999, Operation Allied Force, our pilots had a difficult time with it as they knew they were being ordered to bomb the people who helped their brothers after being shot down. While waiting to debrief a B-2 that was returning from a bombing mission when one of our senior officers remarked, ” this is all political bullshit; we’re bombing the wrong people”. We did what we were ordered to do but were not happy about it.

  4. Hgpsurf says:

    How ironic that we fight the spread of Communism in Vietnam and lose tens of thousands of lives and then elect and re-elect a Communist president! More than half our population could act in a remake of Dumb and Dumber.

  5. Hgpsurf says:

    One more comment here from me. The ONLY reason to fight a war is to win it and defeat the enemy. Is there even one NFL team that is out there for the joy of playing football? No, their goal is to win every game they play. It’s even more important for our country to play only to win as so much is at stake in a war.

    • Gary says:

      Boy, you nailed that on the head.

      Diplomats attempt to negotiate and solve issues with words and agreements. But when their efforts fail, then and only then do we send in our military. We don’t send them in to win the hearts and minds of our enemies; we send them in to KILL our enemies… ALL OF THEM. Decisively, and without remorse. We pay our men and women in uniform to be the meanest, baddest SOBs on the ground and in the air. If they spend their time passing out candy and pillows, we ain’t gettin’ our money’s worth, and they need to come home.

      As a vet and one who currently has friends in theatre, this is a hot button issue for me.

  6. Baron Garlic says:

    Fred you nailed it again!

    Hgpsurf said: in the NFL the goal of every team is to win the game…..and let me add when they don’t the COACH GETS FIRED!! If only we could do that.

  7. As soon as I heard we were “forting-up’ in Afghanistan, I knew we were in trouble. Static forces will not, cannot win. I don’t think Gen. Patton would have built a wire fence around a cantonment. His troops weren’t still long enough. They were advancing — never allowing the enemy a breather to refresh, resupply, and plan counter attacks.

    Think about it. We’re fighting wars as the US troops did in the late 1800’s, especially in the American west. Our Pentagon is in bad need of a through cleansing of the politician soldiers and parade ground generals. They should be replaced with warriors.

    Excellent commentary, Fred!!!


  8. BobF says:

    Outstanding Fred…simply Outstanding!

  9. Wayne says:

    I’m sorry, Fred. I forgot to compliment you for this excellent post. I guess I got fired up too.

  10. The US military should exist for two things and two things only, in no particularly order:

    1) Killing people
    2) Breaking shit

    If you are NOT willing to do either or both of those things politically, then US military personnel should not be deployed where there are chances OUR men will come back in body bags.


  11. bunkerville says:

    Excellent post. We need to do what we did to Japan. Blast away one city at a time. I bet the natives will holler uncle.

  12. Petermc3 says:

    Your post should be read and reread and reread ad nausea on every conservative outlet until it sinks in. Those of us of your generation cannot help but relive the past in living color as we read this post. It reminds us that there is no substitute for common sense and killer instinct when dealing with any enemy especially one whose focus is to kill all of us; even the liberals. But as long as we look to traitors like Obama and the Clintons and those whose job #1 is to keep government contractors raking in billions we are sure to lose the war against islam.

  13. Fred, you hit it out of the park with this one! When, and if, we as Americans go to war it should be total war. We both had sons risk their lives fighting under bullshit ROE’s! And for what?

    • TexasFred says:

      What for? The PCness of sons a bitches that NEVER carried a rifle into battle… Because of people like that that SOB Political Science professor a while back that came into Gunny John’s blog and denigrated the USMC and got his poor little feelings all butt-hurt when I *called* his bullshit what it was..

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